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Thán ([personal profile] hohnkai) wrote in [community profile] savrou_backup2016-02-08 01:12 pm

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The Punishment System

How It Works:

The number one rule of the captains is do not harm fellow crew members. The Moira doesn't have a strict environment, but that one rule is asked to be followed. What normally would result in hold time, the captains believe is no longer enough to keep crew from harming one another. This has brought about the creation of the punishment system.

The rules are simple. If you physically injure another crew member or murder them, you are required to comment to this page using the form below. You will be asked to pick three different punishments from the stages below, each vary in how extreme they are, and to put those punishments into the comment you make using the form. From the date that you post here until three days later, players will be allowed to respond to your comment with a vote. This vote is what their character believes is a worthy punishment for the crime committed. The captains will not vote unless there is a tie.

ICly: A MID message will be sent out detailing the events; it will have an attachment of the footage (only in the case of a murder, all other events will not show footage) with it. Crew members will be asked to seek out the captains in the mess hall and relay their vote as to the offenders punishment.

Currently, a new system is in the works. Find out more here.

The Three Stages

Category One:

☄ Three to five days in the hold
☄ One month of latrine cleaning duty
☄ Two month of laundry duty
☄ Create your own

Category Two:

☄ One of the above punishments and a loss of two ranks
☄ Off-ship privileges revoked: One week and a loss of two ranks
☄ Off-ship privileges revoked: Two weeks and a loss of two ranks
☄ Create your own

Category Three:

☄ Solitary confinement: Three days
☄ Solitary confinement: One week
☄ Solitary confinement: One week plus a reset to Incipen
☄ Create your own

List of Current/Past Offenders:

☄ Sans [personal profile] skelepun
☄ Adrian Clark [personal profile] forcefulgift
☄ Chara [personal profile] heart_breaking
☄ Peter [personal profile] takeitslow
☄ Alice Quinn [personal profile] niffin
☄ Rinzler [personal profile] notglitching
☄ Tarn [personal profile] sparkwhisperer


Punishment Form:


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[personal profile] pleasereset 2016-02-10 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Asriel will not show up to the proceedings and will not be voting. Tiny goat will be staying in his room instead.
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[personal profile] smoothaf 2016-02-10 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
category 2, although just to clarify this means either one or three in addition to the loss of ranks?
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[personal profile] shoppingtrip 2016-02-10 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Cordelia suggests therapy as an alternative to solitary confinement, but if she actually has to vote for one she will vote for category 2. Also, she extends an invitation to Sans to come see her in her capacity as Interpersonal Relationships Officer, if he ever needs some advice or just someone to talk to.
Edited 2016-02-10 15:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] gentlemenpreferblondes 2016-02-10 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
No vote

J thinks that this is just bullshit. Sans too lazy to kill someone.

And even after she learns more about this and his reasons to do it she's just going to feel too uncomfortable to give out a vote. But damn, she'll whip him when she sees him again.
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[personal profile] petridish 2016-02-10 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Category 2 with 3. She doesn't know anyone involved nor care about remorse but she doesn't think time in the hold or alone is much of a punishment.
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[personal profile] warandpeace 2016-02-11 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Miller votes Category 2 because of the lack of remorse. But still thinks he could use visitors.

Niko and Doc Yewll will be abstaining. Niko because while he prefers peer judgement, he also doesn't like to judge people himself. Especially after what he's done. Doc Yewll is still feeling guilty from the last judgemental vote she had to cast in canon and won't feel right about casting another.
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[personal profile] aminerproblem 2016-02-12 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Megs will vote for 3, and consider it an astoundingly light punishment for Sans' behavior.

He won't be very happy with Chara's actions either, but that doesn't make it acceptable to kill them. He'd probably push for Chara to be kept in the hold until they can ensure they won't be a threat to more crew members.
Edited (AND ANOTHER THING) 2016-02-12 10:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] forcefulgift 2016-02-14 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Player: Matthew
Characters Involved: Ade [personal profile] forcefulgift | Athena [personal profile] pallantias
Details: YOLO Ade murdered Athena in cold blood because she pissed him off - threatened to blow his OP as fuck cover which is now gonna be blown anyway then she totally killed his murder buzz by trying to kill him for breaking protocol so he killed her... and uh... its permadeath...

Threads: Here! Its only being done now but its back-dated to the 7th of Feb

Possible Punishments:

Category one: One month cleaning the shitter
Category Two: Off-ship privileges revoked: One week and a loss of two ranks
Category Three: -evil laugh- Power Nullification - mutation supression - Lasts 2 weeks.
Edited 2016-02-14 01:36 (UTC)
niffin: i don't know what i knew before ([ by whitticus on plurk!!!! ])

[personal profile] niffin 2016-02-14 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
putting this in a lil' early because hiatus/pre-determined thread outcome

Alice isn't sure why there isn't an airlock option. The situation wasn't a matter of self-defense, but mutiny and flat-out murder.

So: Category three, though she'll suggest additional, combat-trained supervision and/or power nullification whenever he's off of the ship.

It's not about punishment, or at least it shouldn't be. It's about protecting the crew and keeping this level of violence from cascading. The Moira can't afford for situations like this to regularly continue — and anything less than severe is going to create a sense of calculus: If you can kill for comparatively little cost, it becomes a valid way to solve your problems.

And that's going to make this a hell of a long roadtrip.
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[personal profile] forcefulgift 2016-02-14 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
unfortunately ade would survive an airlock... he can create personal gravity bubbles and float around in space five-ever.

PLZ DON'T KILL MUH BABY.
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[personal profile] niffin 2016-02-14 02:22 am (UTC)(link)


this is all i can picture

but lmao she doesn't want him dead so much as she wants him gone or non-functional. to that end she thinks three's a good solution. that was her roommate ade
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[personal profile] forcefulgift 2016-02-14 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
basically all u need to picture tbh but with less smiling children and more death.

No Alice he was here first hdu. he should probably be made gone THIS IS WHAT THEY GET FOR KIDNAPPING A LIVING WEAPON
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EDITED RE: IMPORTANT UPDATE

[personal profile] tigermillionaire 2016-02-14 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Given that his ability to kill people will be controlled in the future, Steven is just going to vote for Category Three and call it a day.

He feels really awful that someone died because of this, either way, and just hopes that people remember this and take murders more seriously in the future. It's unnerving to know that the revival process isn't perfect.
Edited 2016-02-14 03:56 (UTC)
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[personal profile] stompadour 2016-02-14 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Jasper votes category three, although she notes that this is a massively inadequate punishment and that this kind of uncontrollable behaviour should be met with execution. Giving him back his powers at the end of the two weeks suggested seems foolish in the extreme – but she was already skeptical about discipline on board this ship.
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IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR CLARIFICATION

[personal profile] forcefulgift 2016-02-14 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Details:

ICly Ade had no knowledge that he could cause Athena's permanent death- he killed her under the proviso that she'd probably come back from cryo within a few days to continue being a thorn in his side / commence round three.

Although he will not suddenly be remorseful once he realizes Athena is permanently dead (because, well, he's a murderer and this isn't the first time) but he'll actually be pretty satisfied that she's no longer about to piss him off. The details of her being permanently dead will be delivered to Ade at the same time that the rest of the ship find out.


Additional Punishment: To ensure this situation with Ade never arises again because it was clearly a real concern for people, he'll be fitted with a chip that registers his brainwaves/thoughts- the moment Ade makes the conscious decision to kill a crew-member ( whether directly or indirectly such as tearing the ship to pieces) said chip will send a pulse through his brain rendering him unconscious where he'll be gathered by mana bc she big and strong and placed in the hold for 24 hours. No, this does not mean Ade will suddenly stop being violent, he can still fight, you can all just rest assured the big meanie can't kill anyone on board as the signal is sync'd to the presence of an MID.


So please, go ahead and vote on which punishment you're going to go for (which is clearly going to be category 3 lbr here) I hope this adjustment is satisfactory for other player's needs and I meant no harm nor hindrance in helping create this plot, my apologies for any offense/irritation/misunderstanding/grievance caused.
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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR CLARIFICATION

[personal profile] stompadour 2016-02-14 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Jasper still votes to step on his head but that's because she's a fucking jerk

THIS MAKES MORE SENSE NOW THOUGH THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION
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[personal profile] forcefulgift 2016-02-14 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
pfft his secondary mutation gives him rly dense bones so they don't just y'know... shatter under the strain of gravity. stomp away its cool. bash him up a bit he likes it.

No problems though! I admit, I didn't rly understand the punishment page / didn't know it existed until I quickly hashed this out in a rush as we're backtagging the whole murder thing.

Glad things are cleared up though!
tigermillionaire: (ryslig tbh)

+1

[personal profile] tigermillionaire 2016-02-14 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
SECONDING THIS, the additional punishment pretty much totally solves the problem. Just knowing that there is something preventing future murders goes a long way.

And Steven still doesn't want to step on his head because that's horrible, Jasper, stop it.
Edited 2016-02-14 03:59 (UTC)
stompadour: (smell ya later)

Re: +1

[personal profile] stompadour 2016-02-14 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
sometimes you gotta step on a head
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[personal profile] stompadour 2016-02-14 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
THATS EXCITING ACTUALLY SHE'D PROBABLY ENJOY FIGHTING HIM
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[personal profile] peridork 2016-02-14 04:01 am (UTC)(link)


gay sweating intensifies
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[personal profile] manyvoiced 2016-02-14 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Breq will vote for Updated Category 3, namely due to the lack of remorse on Ade's part, and in interest of keeping something like this from ever happening again.

That is was ever allowed to happen in the first place will give her serious pause for concern of the running of the ship and the safety of the crew.
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[personal profile] forcefulgift 2016-02-14 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
bruh this kid was hauled out of school and sold to a prison at aged 14 to be taught how to kill maim torture and infiltrate other countryies he'd fight a shadow if he felt like it :3
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[personal profile] eighteenhalflives 2016-02-14 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Tobias in his infinite wisdom will passively vote Category 2 without any inclination to explain himself.

[spoilers: it's because he's hypocritical af about rules, doesn't want to be considered at all responsible for Ade's depowerment, and genuinely doesn't think anyone deserves to have to clean toilets ever. enjoy your lame, vain, anarchist crewmate??]

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